Ce sont les lignes en compétition pour le titre de pire ligne de réseau:
Ce sont toutes des lignes hyper-congestionnées qui accumulent des records en retards sur leurs parcours.
Je vais juste renchérir pour les pires lignes avec la 32 sur Lacordaire/Cadillac, ainsi que la 33 sur Langelier. Ce sont des lignes jumelles je dirais.
Deux longues lignes avec beaucoup d’arrêts, sur des artères congestionnées, très classe sardine et qui ont souffert de l’abolition du réseau 10 minutes max. Elle sont constamment en grand retards, surtout la 32. Je voudrais pas être l’usager en bout de ligne.
Pour moi, la meilleure ligne, c’est celle avec une bonne fréquence et qui est à l’heure. Alors je vais dire une énormité, mais la 24. Elle est prise dans le traffic, certes, mais elle est pas vraiment en retard par rapport à l’horaire annoncé. La fréquence demeure décente malgré les coupes. Et surtout, elle dessert beaucoup de générateurs d’achalandage, donc elle m’amène où je vais, ce qui est un gros plus.
Le meilleur circuit du bus que j’utilisai quand je vivais a Lasalle . Le 106 tres haute frequence même hors pointe.
Et la pire ligne pour moi c’est la 80 sur Parc Avenue. Tres achalandée et pas frequente hors pointe et toujours dans la congestion a part dans la soirée .
I will be taking these buses with a certain transit YouTuber (in a single day) in the near future.
I am curious what people here think of these lines, and if their opinions will change after the video is released:
12, 37, 43, 48X, 49, 50, 61, 68, 69, 74, 79, 107, 110, 183, 195, 198, 200, 201, 202, 205, 211, 281, 410, 411, 470, 487
On dirait bien que le 121 est “incurable” en fin d’après-midi. Même avec les voies réservées, zéro congestion, zéro école, le REM Montpellier, le nouveau 177 qui absorbe une bonne partie de la clientèle ça demeure problématique.
Je sais pas si c’est une question de synchronisme des débuts de quarts de travail, de pauses ou de diner mais il y avait encore des situations avec deux bus qui se suivent et une longue attente après 15h30.
Circumnavigating the Island of Montreal with buses with Miles??
You’re calling a taxi ?
I grew up in Pierrefonds, worked part-time in DDO, and went to CEGEP at Abbott. My experience was predominantly with the 68, 200, 205, and the 470. Nowadays I mostly visit family via REM and 68/205.
200
I’d say my least familiar of the bunch, though during my CÉGEP years it was very frequently used. The 419 (now 210) was the most crowded route I had ever used (students tolerate it way more than adults do, so they really stuff you.) Anyway, when I really didn’t want to deal with it or I wanted to just take a quiet ride, I’d take the 200.
I think it was probably one of my favoured routes because it’s a calm suburban ride with some water, some nice houses, etc. That being said, it’s a slog. It’s quite slow to get to Fairview, traffic can make it awful (especially around St-Charles).
68
Super utilitarian. Basically a straight line. It was good if where you needed to go was on that line, but not that many useful transfers. If you did transfer, it’s at a huge/loud intersection.
It was a competent feeder to the DM train (though bunching with the 68, 407 and 468 was pretty bad).
The update which has it now going all the way to AAO is an excellent idea. This is an elegant solution for those who would be going to Abbott to avoid a forced Bus-REM-bus transfer now that the Abbott express leaves from AAO.
That being said, it isn’t as fast as I should be. TSP would really make a world of difference at keeping up the average speeds. When I visit my parents and I get off the REM, it seems as though a meaningful chunk is spent waiting at lights.
205
I used to avoid it when I took the DM train because I felt that it was quite circuitous, and it felt so much longer. However, it’s not nearly as bad as I thought. The constant stop signs on the milk-run portion are kind of annoying, but it actually means that part of Pierrefonds gets pretty decent coverage for not that much of a slowdown.
It connects two of the main hubs via virtually all of Saint-Jean (Anselme-Lavigne to Brunswick) north of A40 which meant I had easy access to a lot without having to transfer or without having to go all the way to Fairview to transfer if I was going elsewhere. I think it’s a very well designed line and I’ll definitely take it if it’s there before the 68 to visit my parents.
If we’re looking for improvements, TSP again. It spends a fair amount of time at lights, especially on Saint-Jean.
470
Used to be the West-Island’s lifeline to the rest of Montréal, but with the arrival of the REM, I suspect its overall usefulness is somewhat diminished. With the REM it’s not the best way downtown, and with the refonte there’s a lot of other good options to the orange line for a lot of people. If the orange line gets extended to Bois-Franc, it ceases to be useful for metro access.
However, that’s not to say it’s useless. The route from Château Pierrefonds to Fairview isn’t really done by anything else so it’s quite important for folks around there. It also used to be the only way home late without using a night bus.
I think the future for this route is as a basis for some West-Island BRT-lite scheme where TSP along De Pierrefonds and Saint-Jean helps extend of the REM somewhat by connecting it to another “Higher-order” mode so that passengers can get deep into the REM dead zones pretty fast.
tldr: I was spoiled (relatively speaking) by 68, 205 and 470. I think my West-Island experience benefited greatly by having access to these routes. TSP on Saint-Jean and De Pierrefonds would probably make an outsized impact on ridership in the area.
Would my opinion change after the video was released? Maybe about the 200 because I suspect my memories might be seen through rose tinted glasses. The others? Not sure. I think everyone’s aware the west’s buses aren’t excellent, but they’re competent. My experience was objectively positive with local transit relative to my peers so I’m not sure on what basis they could be swayed.
I still want Miles in Transit rides every single exo train roundtrip in a single day (except Hudson, for logistical reasons).
With the branding on the back of the STM buses, it’s difficult to see out of the window unless it’s open. Especially after a few winters, dirt gets inside the dots more and more:
“Mashdash in transit”
La STM utilise du AI slop sur ses pancartes maintenant…
“Novasus”, le logo de la STM, le chauffeur, les icônes et l’orthographe…
C’est surment un chef d’opérations à la STM qui a produit cela, et non l’équipe de communications de la STM.
Le chef devrait être réprimandé dans ce cas. C’est vraiment honteux comme panneau.
C’est très (Nova)sus comme affaire (that’s a joke for the younger crowd). En plus, le “dès” en bas de la feuille n’a pas d’accent.
Toujours moins que les feuilles 8,5x11 illisibles écrites au sharpie qui décolore au soleil… oui c’est broche à foin mais ça aurait pu être pire
J’imagine que c’est pas très long à produire non plus avec du AI, donc ça me semble efficace quand même.
la STM a sûrement une banque interne de logos et de photos que le personnel peut utiliser pour les communications.
Quand je suis en mandat chez un nouveau client, je cherche toujours leurs gabarits de documentation pour ne pas réinventer la roue.
Un moment donné, je connaissais par coeur les codes RGB des couleurs officielles de l’entreprise 
D’ailleurs, la STM a une banque publique de photos et logos
Et les accents pseudo-circonflexes…
