Royalmount - XX étages

⅔ of Lufavores drive Range Rovers, the rest ride fixies lol

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2023-10-23 - Sur la page de Tisseur inc.

Une autre étape critique a été franchie dans la construction de la passerelle du projet Royalmount !

Nous avons procédé ces dernières semaines à la pose des voiles qui soutiendront les poutres d’acier à venir pour former la fameuse passerelle tant attendue.

Le projet prend définitivement de plus en plus forme.

Merci à Magil Construction pour leur collaboration remarquable sur le projet, ainsi qu’à Carbonleo de leur confiance !

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I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that while it will be bigger and more impressive than any other pedestrian highway crossing in Montreal, it won’t be anywhere nearly as dramatic as in the renders. That said, it’s still very exciting.

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why is this so accurate

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Wooooow une grosse passerelle pour se rendre au RoyalMount, alors que je pourrai me procurer tout ce qu’il y aura dans ce centre d’achats sur mon téléphone dans mon lit et parfois le jour même. :clown_face:

“Ouais mais tsé il va y avoir Louis Vuitton pi des petits bancs pour s’asseoir dans le milieu”

ah ouin… je capote.

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In New York and parts of Asia, as well as many cities in Europe, many wealthy people use public mass transit. That’s not the reality here, but it’s an entirely valid proposition to have a direct pedestrian connection between our busiest mass rapid transit service, and what will ostensibly be a large, popular attraction in a difficult-to-access part of the city. That the shopping centre is being touted as catering to an upper-income clientele shouldn’t diminish its status as an attraction, whether or not you and I think it’s a great idea (I don’t). I can’t afford to shop at any boutique in Marina Bay Sands, but that hasn’t stopped me from visiting it every time I’ve been to Singapore, though I have spent money in the food court, casino, and hotel.

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Il était temps, ca fait 3 mois que ca dormait dans la court à l’usine de Terrebonne.

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L’entrée du Louis Vuitton sur la rue Sherbrooke n’est pas vraiment ce qui donne le goût d’aller voir la nouvelle boutique du Royalmount. C’est à l’ancien Holt Renfrew qui est maintenant fermé mais ils auraient dû enlever le nom “Louis Vuitton” au-dessus de la porte.

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« It’s unfortunate that Montreal’s high street is also the red-light district. We are providing the brands a controlled, 100-per-cent safe, non-red-light district master-planned area. »

Heu, Quoi ? Comment un journaliste peut-il reporter des propos aussi ridicules ? Est-ce à dire que le Four Seasons du même promoteur est dans le soi-disant red light ?

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C’est pas exactement faux, et pour le commerce de luxe la perception de luxe doit être aussi représenté sur la façade. C’est pour cela qu’Apple voulait acheter les places de stationnements en face, et le(s) mendiant(s) devant le Ogilvy n’aide(nt) pas la cause du magasin.

Le Four Seasons est le voisin du Wanda’s qui le précède, alors… Pas faux.

Still, drawing luxury shoppers to the area could be Royalmount’s biggest challenge, said Jacques Nantel, professor emeritus of marketing at the HEC Montréal business school.

Je ne suis pas contre l’opinion de Mr. Nantel, c’est à voir.

“I have a lot of respect for Mr. Lutfy but I have a hard time believing Royalmount will become a destination,” Nantel said in an interview. “The problem with Royalmount is that you’re creating a bubble that’s not adjacent to downtown, which is where Montreal’s heart beats. It’s a risky bet.”

Par contre son argument du coeur battant du centre-ville est plutôt faible à mon avis.

Charles de Brabant, executive director of McGill University’s Bensadoun School of Retail Management, thinks the time is right to open a luxury mall in Quebec’s biggest city. With Montreal Island home to wealthy neighbourhoods such as T.M.R., Westmount and Beaconsfield, as well as thousands of foreign students, many of which come from well-to-do families, Royalmount will fill a need, he said.

Je suis plus en accord avec son collègue de McGill.

“This is the kind of development that weakens Montreal,” Glenn Castanheira, head of the Montréal Centre-Ville downtown merchants association, said in a recent interview.

Pas biaisé du tout :sweat_smile:

While downtown will continue to attract its share of shoppers because of its store mix, a project like Royalmount “will cannibalize downtown’s margins. Every dollar spent at Royalmount will not be spent elsewhere.”

Ce n’est pas au Royalmount de faire vivre le centre-ville…

And don’t be surprised if Royalmount’s future phases stray from the current plan, Lutfy adds.

“We’re doing our best to get it right, but we’re going to get it wrong. No one is perfect,” he said. “With so many moving parts, we’re not going to get everything right. What we are delivering next year is only 10 per cent. The other 90 per cent is a blank canvas, for which we can course correct — and we will course correct. We will respond to the market. I’m sure there’s going to be all kinds of demands that I would have never anticipated. Let the community co-create with us and figure out what’s next.”

Pas mal réaliste comme personne.

Overall un assez bon texte qui couvre pas mal les divers angles de discussions autour du projet!

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appeler cette zone un red light district est un mensonge. cela n’a pas été vrai historiquement, et ce n’est pas vrai aujourd’hui. La présence de Wanda’s ne fait pas un red light district lol. De plus, « Montréal’s high street » n’est pas un quartier. Ça traverse le quartier red light historique à l’est, oui, mais la moitié ouest ? Gimme a break. Ce sont des histoires anti-urbaines des années 50 utilisées pour vendre les centres commerciaux de cette époque. Je pensais qu’on en avait fini avec ces conneries de dirty city dirty people

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It’s much worse today than it was in the 50s. Or 70s. Or 90s. Or… ever. It’s grimier and more overwhelmed with troubled individuals than Times Square in the 70s.

There are barely any ‘illicit’ establishments left downtown. A couple of strip clubs don’t make a red-light districts. Downtown is bustling with ordinary people day and night. Just because there’s a heightened presence of people dealing with addictions and mental health issues doesn’t make it grimier than it used to be- I don’t know anyone who would qualify downtown as dangerous or ‘infréquentable’ like they did back then. Only people who do…never go downtown. And the comparison to 70s Times Square is absolutely ludicrous and frankly insulting.

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I’m not disagreeing with you, I was simply inferring from comments in the article that the term was perhaps misused. I think he just wanted to say that it’s a particularly dirty, depressing, and unsafe part of the city now.

You’re right. Times Square was rife with fairly predictable scammers and muggers and dealers back then. I knew how to avoid them all without having to walk in a serpentine pattern around sleeping unsheltered folks and random crazies.

Im not sure what your implication is. That downtown Montréal is currently worse because the people are unpredictable? Youre entitled to your opinion, but downtown has nothing on midtown west today, let alone in the 70s (although nyc really bottomed out in the early 80s before the yuppie boom). Most of us are downtown many times a week, we can observe that its packed on commercial streets. Pedestrians and shoppers outnumber “beggers and scammers” by at least 1000 to 1. And every night when i finish at midnight i dont feel any particular danger walking and taking the metro.

I complain about QOL issues all the time. Seriously, ive been a frequent contributor to the threads about homelessness, because its a complicated issue. But, i wont let Montréal bow to the narrative that it is some kind of shithole, or even that its worse than it was at any point in the 20th century. It is clearly not, and business men like Lutfy who try to push that narrative to promote their suburban walled garden will always get an eye roll from me.

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I’ll defer to the current regular visitors and downtown workers then, but as a former resident, student, and worker in the urban core, it depresses me to visit there nowadays, as I choose not to ignore the filth, decay, and the explosion of victims of those complicated social welfare problems. Having an abundance of festivals and bike paths doesn’t mean the city seems cleaner or feels safer than it was before the 2000s. Because it simply isn’t. The people who “never go downtown” are people who have gone downtown and been shocked and saddened at what has transpired. I still think I’m young and in good shape, but when I encounter someone who hasn’t seen me in 20 years, they say, “Shit, you got old!” Perhaps those who are always downtown don’t see the degradation the way ex-denizens like me see it.

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