Saint-Laurent serait mon coup de cœur. Mais ça va prendre du courage… Personnellement je n’irais pratiquement plus jamais encombrer le métro si j’avais un service rapide sur Saint-Laurent, d’un bord à l’autre de l’île.
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I think St-Laurent should become a bus corridor, or in North American terms, a Transit Mall, where its two way for buses only. The sidewalks could be widened where parking is and/or bike lanes added too. This would allow the shops to have more people accessing it, with local traffic and not through traffic of cars leaving Montreal.
The traffic would evaporate and be pushed to the many other North/South through streets. With this design, crossing the street mid block would be easier as well, and the street would be quieter with no cars along it
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The issue is that Saint-Laurent is the northbound street in the area.
Continue HB to hymus, Sainte-Marie & ancien combattant as well as Sherbrooke est for an actual cross island bus way
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Oui certainement Sherbrooke… d’ouest en est! C’est-à-dire les 105, 24, 185 et 186/486 mais mieux pensés et bus plus fréquents dans l’Est.
St-Hubert could be made two way, there’s also St-Denis, Parc, Papineau further east as well to go North.
The 55 South is much better than 55 North, because cars are always parked in the bus stops on St-Laurent, or double parked blocking traffic to access shops. Car traffic moved off of St-Laurent to move the 55 North and South along only St-Laurent would speed up service both directions. Then car traffic can stay stuck in traffic on St-Urbain and every other street.
We need to begin removing these thoroughfares for car traffic heading to the suburbs, there are highways created and drivers should be using instead, even with the added travel times, we should prioritize streets in neighbourhoods for those citizens
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- Cavendish (Gouin à St-Jacques, on pourrait la ramener à Vendôme via St-Jacques et Upper Lachine)
- Côte-des-Neiges (de la station Ville-Mont-Royal à Concordia)
- Parc (de la station Parc jusqu’au Square Victoria)
- Saint-Laurent (soit on ferme la rue, soit on fait une boucle avec Clark / St-Urbain)
- Lacordaire / Dickson (Notre-Dame à Gouin)
- René-Lévesque / Notre-Dame (du centre-ville au bout de l’île)
- Sherbrooke (de la gare Montréal-Ouest au bout de l’île)
- Côte-Sainte-Catherine / Saint-Joseph
- Van Horne / Rosemont
- Henri-Bourassa d’un bout à l’autre (on fini le travail)
Bonus: Papineau / De Lorimier (boucle entre la 40 et Notre-Dame puis sur Papineau jusqu’à Gouin). J’hésitais avec Lacordaire mais l’est a besoin d’amour.
Plusieurs de ces axes pourraient être des le mot en T dont on ne doit pas prononcer le nom.
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J’aime j’aime! et le bonus aussi!
Personal desire: Saint-Charles, Saint-Jean & Des Sources. Trafic can be absolute hell in rush hour
They all connect at least to a train station and some to the REM (or 2)
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This should be the #1 priority for mobility in the West Island at the next municipal elections. It’s crazy that’s it not done yet considering how large these boulevards are. Along with connections to the REM and the train.
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We dont have have buses to justify the infrastructure so we don’t get buses to get infrastructure.
We need a kicker with the rem and the bus renetworking to push the aglomeration to fund these to allow the municipalities to be able to do it
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Unfortunately, I think many of us will be disappointed by the network redesign for the West Island sector. In one of my courses this past semester, we had a planner for the STM currently working on the redesign come speak to us about their process. He let slip that after the pushback they got for the Nuns’ Island phase and the fact that they’re working with a (very) limited budget, they decided to be less ambitious with subsequent phases of the redesign. He even said that at their current planning stage (keeping in mind this was about a month ago), their current network plan requires a 5% budget increase, so they’ll be cutting even more from their plan to make it work without increasing costs. It’s sad, but they can’t afford it at the moment given… gestures broadly in all directions.
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So basically yet again we get jack **** but they make sure downtown gets 20 million alternative instead of forcing them into the metro…
Why can’t they just remove bus service downtown since they LITERALLY HAVE 2 METROS
I seriously think that at this point they should just replace the buses with microtransit… Wont cost them for empty seats and we will actually get SOMETHING
There is something I am missing. How is making available all the West Island express buses currently going to Cote Vertu and other metro stations results in a 5% increase?
The idea is to bring people by bus to the new REM stations, this is very different than on Nuns Island.
They will probably keep all the cv-lg ones… Since you know “cdpq bad stealing riderships”
Again, I live in DDO, and I get your frustration, but removing bus lines with the highest ridership numbers in the system to serve the WI doesn’t make any sense. This is a problem with the STM’s lackluster financing from Quebec, and blaming downtown bus lines that probably move far more people than would be served in the WI, even if frequencies were super high, is not realistic.
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Au même moment, plusieurs membres ici sont très tièdes à une vision “d’équité sociale” dans la distribution du TEC. Si une ligne au centre-ville performe mieux, est-ce qu’on peut la retirer, prendre le même argent pour bouger moins de gens ailleurs, mais en augmentant la couverture territoriale?
Personnellement, je ne pense pas que c’est une question facile. Mais elle serait plus simple à aborder avec plus d’argent.
Je pense que, comme service public, on devrait y aller avec une équité au niveau de la couverture, pour ce que ça vaut. Mais je comprends l’argument que notre argent n’est alors plus dépensé de façon à bouger le plus de gens.
C’est un problème de structure de financement. On fait comment pour instaurer des lignes moins rentables alors que les revenus baissent? Je pense que l’ARTM fait bien de dénoncer cela. Ce n’est pas une question que le REM soit mauvais (il ne l’est définitivement pas comme métro), c’est une question qu’on handicape le TEC en général en forçant différents modes de se battre pour le même revenu.
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Just a fyi the cdpq bad bit was full of sarcasm (text can’t transfer sarcasm) the rest yea i get it Territorial cover vs moving most users.
It’s just a constant pain to hear the you guys only want cars when the whole issue is we have no choice cus we got nothing else
Je comprends la frustration, c’est bien légitime de vouloir un service qui fonctionne, et difficile de blâmer le choix des gens qui n’ont pas d’alternative. Pour ma part, je pense que tout le monde à droit à des alternatives de transport, et que l’urbanisme doit suivre pour réaliser cette vision.
Peut-être que l’ouest de l’île devrait avoir un groupe de pression organisé pour démontrer cette volonté. Il y a beaucoup de choses à changer, et c’est facile d’avoir l’impression qu’il y a un désir d’inertie chez les politiciens et même la population.
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Unfortunately that’s all I know, he obviously didn’t go into a ton of detail. He did say to expect much less service to downtown and much more to the REM stations, which isn’t surprising. They may just decide to reallocate buses to other areas instead of keeping the same number of buses in the West Island and providing more frequent service. I’m just guessing now though.
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