En fait, le projet est dans la district de Lacey Green Est. 
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Now I’m wondering if we’ll soon get an official announcement from Broccolini-RioCan about the big Kirkland development near Jean-Yves and the Kirkland station.
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In their description of the higher density portion, they mention ground level commercial! Maybe it’s just me, but is this the first time we get confirmation on that?
Edit: it’s not, it mentions it in the lobbyist registry. Still, good news!
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Merci pour le lien et je te souhaite la bienvenue sur le forum!
Le plan d’ensemble semble avoir changé, voici le nouveau du site (et j’assume le plus récent, l’image était nommée V2):
Et celui qu’on avait du début de l’année:
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Je trouve que le plan directeur, avec le nombre d’unités selon le type de logement, est assez intéressant pour visualiser la densité des types d’habitation.
- Un quart du projet est occupé par de l’unifamiliale, et cela représente 47 logements, sur grosso-modo 1000+.
- Un autre quart du projet est occupé par les maisons de ville, et cela représente 110 unités.
- Le reste du projet, dans des édifices de moyenne densité ou plus en hauteur avec beaucoup d’espace vert aux alentours, représente grosso-modo 80%+ des habitations.
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C’est quand même saisissant que 25% des terrains soient alloués à 5% des futurs résidents.
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Don’t forget Kirkland is a second-ring suburb. People don’t generally decide to move this far from the centre for its higher density. But one must also realize that with several redevelopment projects in various phases of planning — Frosst, RioCan, SmartCentres — this municipality (and the whole area, from Ste-Anne to DDO, Pierrefonds to Dorval) will be undergoing cataclysmic change over the span of less than a decade.
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Des architectures brutalistes laides qui s’effondrent me font très plaisir.
I keep forgetting how flat the west island is until I see pictures like that.
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I always forget how flat greater Montreal is.
My girlfriend’s from Massachusetts and her fam and friends pointed out how flat Montreal is. I didn’t really think about it much but yeah from Saint-Jérôme to the US border is REALLY flat save for some mountains here and there.
I guess the river was much larger back in the day?
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On l’appelle la plaine du St-Laurent, vestige de la mer de Champlain.
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Basses-Terres du Saint-Laurent*
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Il y a eu trois phases après le retrait des glaces, premièrement la mer de Champlain, puis le lac Lampsilis et finalement le fleuve.
Puis il y a fort longtemps, c’était un océan, l’océan Laptus (ou un nom du genre) qui occupait l’actuel territoire des plaines du Saint-Laurent.
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Est-ce bien le raccordement Stillview (Sommerset) que je vois dans le nouveau plan d’aménagement? Il est confirmé?
Elle pourra prendre le REM à l’UdeM 
Citizen’s participatory urban planning initiative brings residents to the centre
Prével’s Village Lacey Green project will feature mixed housing, public spaces, parks and proximity to the REM.
Robin Della Corte
Kirkland residents Lindsay Francis and Magdy Boghdady have a conversation recently outside the former Merck Frosst campus. The two were part of a committee of residents dealing with promoter Prével over how to develop the property. PHOTO BY JOHN MAHONEY /Montreal Gazette
Lindsay Francis and Magdy Boghdady live one kilometre away from each other in Kirkland but have one thing in common: they participated in a special citizen-approach task force to collaborate in one of the town’s biggest residential development projects.
As part of an innovative urban planning initiative, Francis, Boghdady along with six other residents, were brought on a task force that formed in late 2019, joining representatives from property owner, Broccolini, the developer, Prével, and the city to collaborate on a vision for the Charles-E. Frosst site, located just west of the Fairview—Pointe-Claire REM station.
Boghdady, 72, has been living in Kirkland for 41 years, and with his experience working as an engineer and project manager in developing and managing industrial projects in Canada, Europe, Africa and the Middle East, he felt compelled to join the task force.
“We were very satisfied with the outcome of the process,” Boghdady said. “We did not have that expectation at the beginning, but we worked on it together, we dialogued, and the city and developer listened.”
The task force is a result of a prior proposed 800-unit residential development project consisting of condominiums and townhouses that was scrapped in 2016 after residents signed a register opposing the project promoted by property owner Broccolini.
Residents opposing the site presented a petition with over 400 signatures to city council to stop the zoning change of the site to allow for residential development in December 2015.
However, council approved the zoning change, which prompted residents to file a register in January 2016 and obtained over 300 votes, more than double the 125 minimum signatures required to either force city council to drop the proposing zoning changes or call a referendum.
The project was dropped, and Francis, 33, was part of that opposition. Now, she’s on the task force.
“It was definitely meaningful to participate,” Francis, who has been living in Kirkland since 1993, said. “It was an upsetting situation in 2015 to a lot of residents because it wasn’t a vision that many were onboard with.”
At the time, the proposed project included six condominiums towers, some up to 13 storeys, 142 townhouses and 182 stacked townhouses.
“It just didn’t feel like Kirkland to people,” Francis said.
Boghdady says traffic was also a concern for residents that would be caused with the new development and with the arrival of the REM nearby. Thus, Boghdady pushed for a traffic study on the task force that would provide a scientific analysis of the future pattern of traffic so action plans could be developed.
“Getting the city of Kirkland to commission their own traffic study was certainly a success for our committee,” Boghdady said. “The results were clear, and the city accepted the traffic study recommendations and pledged actions over three to five years.”
Boghdady and Francis also highlighted the graduation and placement of building types on the site, now one of the biggest differences from this project to the last. The new project incorporates single-family homes, condominiums and townhouses in a more logistical flow, integrating better into the existing-make-up of the neighbourhood.
“We succeeded in showing the city and the developer these issues and putting them into the new project,” Boghdady said. “The graduation of the buildings solved one of the major problems seven years ago.”
Kirkland Mayor Michel Gibson celebrates the collaborative process and anticipates that Kirkland, and other cities, could use this model for future development projects.
“For Kirkland, this will be the way,” Gibson said. “It was very important that the project be driven by residents that would be directly impacted by our project. We listened, we explained the position of city, and then they brought their ideas. It’s a process that should be done by every municipality.”
Prével president Laurence Vincent says this participatory philosophy between all stakeholders is not new to them and is something they practice in other projects.
“We had many meetings throughout the months to exchange about this vision and different elements we had to take into consideration,” Vincent said. “We wanted to make sure we would come out with the best project possible for the residents that already live there and future residents.”
And although the task force’s mandate officially ended last fall when the site’s zoning was changed, Prével decided to continue communication with the residents during the final stages of the project.
In August, Prével hosted an open house on site to show residents the latest edition of the project. The project, which is slated to be completed over the next six to 10 years, is in the process of getting approval for the architecture of phase one of the first building so selling and construction of the building can begin.
“We feel good that we did have a positive outcome and a good cooperation from the city and the developer,” Boghdady said. “We got our points across, which are embedded into the project right now.”
Francis says her seven-year involvement in this project has inspired her to purse a Master of Science in sustainability management, focusing on the role of municipalities in sustainability issues.
“I think the city has learned a lot since 2015,” Francis said. “A key issue at hand at the time was that information was missing throughout the community, so continued communication and participation is appreciated among the community. I think this serves as an example of what community engagement can do.”
The new project, to be constructed over six phases, will total between 600 and 750 condo or rental units as well as 47 single-family homes and around 110 townhouses. The first phase, which should launch in early 2023, will have around 130 condo units.
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The sales office is being set up in part of the old BNC at 3908 St-Charles, I didn’t get a chance to take a picture though.
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C’est fou qu’ils fassent encore de l’unifamilial sur l’Île de Montréal!
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