Réseau cyclable montréalais - Discussion générale

j’ai appris le CSR dans mes cours de conduite à 16 ans; quand le volet théorique était encore obligatoire pour obtenir le permis d’apprenti

Il est encore obligatoire de suivre les 4 modules théoriques de la phase 1 (8 heures) et de passer l’examen théorique à l’auto école pour obtenir le permis apprenti

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À mon école primaire la police était venu faire de la sensibilisation. Mais c’était il y a presque 20 ans donc je ne sais pas si ça se fait toujours ni comment.

C’était surtout axé autour d’aller à l’école en bus, vélo ou à pied. Les comportements à prendre, de quel côté de la route marcher (vu qu’il n’y a pas de trottoir), etc. Regarder de chaque côté de la route.

Il l’est encore.

Il y a 10 heures de cours théorique et un examen théorique (donné par l’école et une fois ce dernier fait il est possible de faire celui de la SAAQ) à faire en au minimum 30 jours avant de pouvoir obtenir le permis d’apprentis conducteur.
Suivi d’un autre 14 heures de cours théorique par après en plus d’un minimum de 15 heures de conduite avec un instructeur répartis sur genre 8 mois pour pouvoir passer l’examen pratique à la SAAQ. Et après seulement ça tu as ton permis probatoire pour 2 ans.

Pis aux moins on as l’obligation pour les E-bikes

Je pensais surtout à ces campagnes de sensibilisation. J’en avais sur la sécurité piétonne, la sécurité à vélo, près des chemins de fer. On n’allait pas dans le détail des panneaux d’obstacles routiers jaune et noir, mais on apprenait la signification des feux tricolores, des panneaux d’arrêt, les traverses piétonnes, les priorités de modes de déplacements, comment signaler son intention et l’importance d’avoir une confirmation visuelle des conducteurs avant de conduire.

Bref, l’éducation se fait déjà à l’école et je ne pense pas que ce soit la source des problèmes qu’on a présentement. Je pense que c’est principalement un enjeu de complaisance qui se développe avec le temps et qu’on refuse de prendre au sérieux. Personnellement, je trouve que c’est pas normal qu’on ne soumette pas les conducteurs à des tests de conduite périodiques jusqu’à nos 65 ans ou qu’on soit aussi réticents à retirer le permis aux conducteurs dangereux.

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Tom Babin (Shifter) était à Paris!

Grande transformation urbanistique quand la volonté politique est là, malgré les critiques des banlieusards

How to find space for bike lanes in clogged cities

Like you, I’ve read the stories about Paris and its urbanist transformation in recent years, and I’ve been inspired to see the photos of all of those cyclists flourishing on Paris’s new bike lanes. But one thing I had always wondered: How, in a dense, busy city like Paris, did they find a way to squeeze bike lanes into those streets? Here’s the answer.

Big thanks to Camille Hanuise of Paris en Selle for sharing her wisdom and experience, even on a day when it was rainy and windy.

Cette vidéo me fait penser que si on avait Anne Hidalgo comme mairesse, il y aurait des pistes protégées sur René-Lévesque, l’avenue du Parc, le boulevard Saint-Laurent et j’en passe. L’administration Plante fait du bien mais depuis le REV St-Denis je la trouve beaucoup trop timide au niveau du réseau cyclable, sans même parler de l’apaisement de la circulation.

Cela dit je suis bien conscient que la mairie de Paris a beaucoup plus de pouvoir que la Ville de Montréal, donc l’administration municipale de Montréal sera toujours assez contrainte à ce qu’elle peut faire.

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I completely agree but it’s also important to note that Anne Hidalgo has been mayor of Paris 3.5 years longer than Plante. I still think Paris has done more than any other European city in the last 10 years in terms of cycling. I appreciate that several NA cities are moving towards this direction even if it’s slower with a stronger “car culture”

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It’s true, she had a head start, which gives me hope for more transformative changes if PM is re-elected in 2025.

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Paris a aussi un des meilleurs systèmes de transport en commun au monde, alors les banlieues ont d’autres alternatives à la voiture.

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Pas exactement une annonce officielle, mais dans les documents décisionnels du dernier comité exécutif Il y a une mention que certains projets cyclable ont reçu un avis favorable du Service d’urbanisme et mobilité pour réalisation en 2024:

Arrondissement Projet
CDN-NDG Aménagement cyclable rehaussé sur la rue Terrebonne
Lachine Réaménagement de la piste cyclable des berges (Route 5) le long du boulevard Saint-Joseph entre la 51e et la 52e avenue (Arrondissement de Lachine)
Lachine Réaménagement de la piste cyclable des berges (Route 5) le long du boulevard Saint-Joseph, entre la 39e et la 42e avenue.
MHM Aménagement de liens cyclables sur les rues Guérin-Lajoie et Renty
Montréal-Nord Réfection et aménagement d’un lien cyclable sur l’avenue Jean-Meunier
RDP-PAT Aménagement d’un lien cyclable dans l’emprise de la ligne de transport d’électricité au nord du boulevard Maurice-Duplessis
RPP Aménagement d’une piste cyclable sur l’avenue de Chateaubriand entre les rues Jean-Talon et Bélanger
VSP Aménagement cyclable sur l’avenue de Châteaubriand, entre Jean-Talon et Villeray

Source: voir p.1137 de ce PDF
Il y a aussi d’autres projets listés de style sécurisation et réaménagement qui ne semblent pas concerner des aménagement cyclables si vous êtes curieux.

Il y a aussi mention d’un aménagement de pistes permanentes sur Christophe-Colomb entre Jean-Talon et Jarry + Phase 2 de la rue Champlain (et REV Henri-Bourassa)

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Ce n’est pas ce qu’on dit chez #SaccageParis :melting_face:

RPP Aménagement d’une piste cyclable sur l’avenue de Chateaubriand entre les rues Jean-Talon et Bélanger
VSP Aménagement cyclable sur l’avenue de Châteaubriand, entre Jean-Talon et Villeray

Bonne nouvelle! Ce sera aussi un lien important avec le futur REV Jean-Talon.

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I’ve noticed that my Google Maps cycling overlay on the South Shore is incredibly out of date, or just not accurate at all regarding streets that have dedicated lanes, which streets are cycling friendly (or even where to find this definition), and finally trails through parks that could be shortcuts for cycling journeys.

Is there any tools that you guys use to improve these maps other than using the “right click >> report issue/fix road” function?

I saw some sources that said that the Cycling Overlay is mostly generated from GPS data, not user submissions, so I don’t know where to start.

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I’ve had limited(no) success with Google Maps on this issue, but allow me to get on my usual soapbox and suggest that you consider contributing your local knowledge to OpenStreetMap if you have not already done so. For my money it’s the most accurate/up to date map of the metropolitan cycling network, and it has the advantage of not locking quality map data behind an expensive API.

I would add that if you want to suggest a correction to the map without having to do it yourself as it is a bit technical, you can right-click the map and add a note explaining the issue. Unlike Google a volunteer with map editing experience will almost certainly do something about it :slight_smile:

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To be honest, I have the same problem with Montreal. Streets labeled cycling friendly when they are clearly not, and sometimes no indication of a bike lane, in some instances when it is actually part of the REV.

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I use GeoVélo, and when you report something missing, someone from géovélo will go and update OSM for you usually within a couple days, it’s very cool

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Texte complet : New véloroute will link REM stations to bike network

New véloroute will link REM stations to bike network

Builders of the REM and the city will be putting together an intricate bike path linking TMR to Ste-Anne-de-Bellevue and Deux Montagnes.

Jason Magder • Montreal Gazette
Published Mar 04, 2024 • Last updated 1 hour ago • 4 minute read


Noël-Nord Park in Montreal’s Cartierville neighbourhood, next to the future REM. A bike path is being proposed that runs along the REM’s Deux-Montagnes and West Island branches. PHOTO BY DAVE SIDAWAY /Montreal Gazette

Cycling advocates say a planned bicycle network will become like a highway for cyclists and make it much more efficient to get around the island by bike.

The city is forging ahead with plans to build a so-called véloroute, to connect at least 15 of the stations on the eventual REM light-rail network and link to employment hubs and nature parks. The véloroute will span at least 38 kilometres of Montreal Island and link to Laval and as far as Deux-Montagnes. The network will link to existing bike paths as well as industrial parks and nature parks, like Cap St-Jacques, les Bois-de-l’Île Bizard and the future Grand parc de l’Ouest.

Construction is set to begin at the end of the year and will last until 2032.

The network will be built alongside the REM’s tracks on the two branches heading toward Ste-Anne-de-Bellevue and Deux-Montagnes, starting at Canora Station in Town of Mount Royal.

“We hope this will allow Montrealers to have new mobility options in the face of known congestion in the areas affected,” Sophie Mauzerolle, the executive committee member in charge of mobility, said in a written statement. “Stimulating active transport while rolling out this bike network will improve accessibility to 15 stations of the REM, improve access to employment hubs and decongestion in certain key areas all the while creating links to nature parks.”

Magali Bebronne, a program director at the cycling lobby group Vélo Québec, said the project could be a game changer for people who commute to work by bike. She said if it’s planned correctly, this will allow cyclists to access a huge swath of protected bike lanes that are separated from car traffic and uninterrupted by stop signs or traffic lights. Currently, there are very few spots where cyclists can travel significant distances separated from cars and without major interruptions from traffic signals. Among those the examples are a three-kilometre path at Des Carrières St. in Rosemont—La Petite-Patrie and a 2.1-kilometre path at Souligny Ave. in Mercier—Hochelaga-Maisonneuve.

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“It’s rare to have such long stretches that would be uninterrupted and allow people to travel long distances,” Bebronne said. “It also creates a redundancy, in the event that the (REM light-rail) system breaks down.”

She said the West Island is an area where it is especially difficult to commute by bicycle, and the network will make it easier not just for cyclists in the area to commute downtown but also within their local neighbourhoods. While the distance from the network’s extreme points to the downtown core are ambitious for most cyclists, Bebronne believes it would be a boon for those with electric bicycles.

Those who take the entire path will also be able to link to bike paths that would take them downtown or several other parts of the central city. The network would also allow cyclists to access the city’s métro network, as it would come close to the Côte-Vertu and Du Collège stations on the Orange Line.

The first hurdle to build the network was cleared in January when Montreal’s agglomeration council and the city of Montreal approved two borrowing bylaws worth more than $90 million. The money will be used to study the project, purchase the land necessary and build the network itself.

The provincial government will also contribute to the project, so the overall price tag isn’t yet known. Some of the project could also be subsidized by higher levels of government, according to the loan bylaw approved in council.

However, it is still not clear who will do the work, as much of the land is owned by CDPQ Infra, the infrastructure arm of the Caisse de dépôt et placement du Québec, which owns and operates the REM. The Autorité régionale de transport métropolitain is also involved in the planning.

The concept was first conceived in 2012 by the St-Laurent borough as a way of linking the then-Deux-Montagnes train tracks to the Bois-de-Liesse nature park. At the time, the borough asked the agglomeration to build a bike path alongside the entirety of the line. In 2016, a small 1.4-kilometre section of the path was built to link Toupin Blvd. to the Bois-Franc station as a test area.

“It was a part of an overall plan to have that type of biking infrastructure, but the arrival of the REM means that parts of the véloroute were put on hold because the CDPQ bought the Deux-Montagnes rail line,” said St-Laurent borough mayor Alan DeSousa. “They didn’t think it would be safe to have two construction sites at the same time.”

DeSousa welcomes the idea, even if his borough asked the agglomeration council to put this bike network together in 2012. He said the planning will be done over the next few months by elected representatives from the boroughs and cities along the route.

“It will take some co-ordination to make sure the trajectory works for the interests of their residents,” DeSousa said. “We need to make sure there is a coherency there.

“I think the benefit of this is to do it as much as possible within the corridor, with as few impediments as possible so those who use it can fly without having to do the stop-and-go that you normally encounter in city traffic.”

DeSousa said he’s optimistic that the project will get off the ground as planned, saying there is a lot of political will to make it happen, and because the work on the tracks has been completed by the REM’s builders.

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Extremely similar to the one @jacouzi had shared here

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