Station Fairview-Pointe-Claire

Almost looks like it stalled over the past two weeks. I thought for sure the ironwork would just keep going.

Having moved away from the West Island a while ago, I always assumed I was misunderstanding the planned location of the station, as I believed there was no way the CDPQi would be stupid enough to put this station west of Fairview St. when we have a sea of parking right next to the mall that could easily be redeveloped, as it was originally planned by the City of Pointe-Claire.

I now realize that they are effectively building this thing on the wrong side of the street, in what was effectively a forest, far away from the bus terminal and easy north-south connexions on St-Jean. No doubt this is purely the result of picking the easiest/cheapest option available when we could have done much better and densify Fairview, where the parking lots are the size of a small town. How the hell are we so bad at planning this thing, again? Is anyone at CDPQi even willing to consider something else than immediate costs when designing the REM? So many wasted opportunities.

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Le pire, c’est que CDPQi eux-mêmes avaient dit aux ministère de l’environnement qu’ils mettraient la station à l’est:

À la suite des inventaires, l’initiateur a révisé les emprises du projet pour minimiser les impacts
sur les populations répertoriées. La modification du tracé en souterrain au niveau du futur
parc-nature des Sources a notamment permis d’éviter d’empiéter sur un habitat fréquenté par le
petit blongios, une espèce vulnérable. De plus, le déplacement de la station Pointe-Claire ainsi
que des stationnements adjacents à l’est de l’avenue Fairview a permis d’éviter un habitat
fréquenté par la couleuvre brune, une espèce susceptible d’être désignée menacée ou vulnérable.
[…]
De plus, le déplacement de la station Pointe-Claire à l’est de l’avenue Fairview a permis d’éviter
la perte de cinq occurrences d’espèces floristiques susceptibles d’être désignées menacées ou
vulnérables (noyer cendré et sanguinaire du Canada). À la suite de cet exercice d’évitement et
pour les trois antennes assujetties, il demeure un total de 220 occurrences d’espèces floristiques à
statut particulier situées à l’intérieur des limites prévues de construction

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Nope

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Many of us West Islanders have been saying similar things as more and more secrets of the system have been revealed (after-the-fact) over the past three years.

Before the assembly of LG-Anne last year, in 2018 its components were gathered on the east side and work was underway clearing a smaller portion of the brush on the west side, ostensibly enough space to build the elevated structure. Even the “snake fence” was perhaps just 15 metres from the Service Road. Columns went up on the east side and Anne was assembled atop them, then they poured the columns on the west side with the platform spans and started clearing a huge swath of the brush.

Often as aspects of the system become clear, I get a strong sense from the Caisse that they’re saying, “Yeah we lied, so what are you gonna do about it?” It’s why I have such low hopes for REM-B.

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Vu sur le site web de NouvLR: :sunglasses:


La construction de la structure d’acier de la station a bien progressé, depuis le retour des Fêtes.

Ils sont en train d’installer le squelette des escaliers afin de grimper jusqu’aux futurs quais. Merci Devisubox ! :+1:

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Grey day for pics and the snow banks on the opposite side of Avenue Fairview and the Service Road didn’t allow me to safely get closer or directly in front. The stairways on both sides are progressing well, and now the structure of the upper walls and roofs of the platforms is going up. The grey prefab panels under the stairways went up a couple of weeks ago, but this was my first chance to stop by since the holidays.

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Great pics sameguy!!

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TIMBERRRRRRRRRR

Another grey day, but I saw the structural timber going up and then I saw that the architectural wood roof panels are being installed and I felt compelled to stop and walk down the service road a little bit even though I’m not wearing my dossard!

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Avec l’arrivée du REM en 2024, l’accessibilité à la station Fairview - Pointe-Claire (par moyen actif… ou non) devient de plus en plus un enjeu.

Pointe-Claire pushing for new Highway 40 overpass at St-Jean Blvd.

The busy Highway 40 overpass at St-Jean Blvd. in Pointe-Claire has become a dangerous crossing for pedestrians and cyclists alike.

Montreal Gazette | John Meagher | Feb 25, 2021

Vehicles and pedestrians pass on St-Jean Blvd. over Highway 40 in Pointe-Claire on Tuesday. Reconstruction of the overpass is scheduled for 2023.
Vehicles and pedestrians pass on St-Jean Blvd. over Highway 40 in Pointe-Claire on Tuesday. Reconstruction of the overpass is scheduled for 2023. PHOTO BY JOHN MAHONEY /Montreal Gazette

The city of Pointe-Claire is asking the provincial government to rebuild the St-Jean Blvd. overpass at Highway 40 and transform it into a multi-purpose crossing for pedestrians, cyclists and people with reduced mobility.

The overpass is one of the busiest traffic spots in the West Island, with an average flow of 35,000 to 40,000 vehicles per day. It is expected to become even busier once the REM station next to the Fairview shopping centre becomes operational in a few years.

Pointe-Claire Mayor John Belvedere says the St-Jean overpass has become a dangerous crossing for pedestrians and cyclists alike.

“Even without the REM, it’s not very safe for pedestrians or bikes or anyone with reduced mobility.”

Belvedere said the Sources Blvd. overpass at Highway 40 is just as bad.

“Those overpasses are obsolete right now at Sources and St-Jean, to tell you the truth. Not only are they obsolete, they’re not in good shape,” the mayor said.

“The (Quebec) government is looking at redoing them in 2023 so we’re absolutely pushing them to incorporate a safe cross-walk across St. John’s for pedestrians, biking and people with reduced mobility to get to the other side to access the REM safely.”

The St-Jean overpass crosses over 12 lanes of traffic on Highway 40, including service roads. “The existing facilities on this overpass, sidewalks in both directions, are not safe for active travel. The design needs to be reviewed with a focus on active mobility,” the city said in a statement.

Belvedere said a new overpass at St-Jean Blvd. will be essential with the arrival of the REM in 2024.

“You want people to go to the REM by bike or you want them to be able to walk,” he said. “It’s supposed to be a green (transportation) system. The whole idea is to save the environment. So if you have to take the car to get there, it’s kind of defeating the purpose.”

Accessing the future REM station at Fairview from south of Highway 40 is also a growing concern for some businesses in the area. Several local businesses recently put forth a proposal for a north-south pedestrian walkway over Highway 40 in Pointe-Claire that would facilitate safe access to the future REM station.

A letter proposing a pedestrian walkway was sent to CDPQ-Infra, builders of the REM, last October. It was signed by business representatives from Olymbec, Future Electronics and Capcium Inc.

Belvedere said reconstruction of the St-Jean Blvd. overpass is scheduled for 2023, according to information from the Quebec Ministry of Transportation (MTQ).

The city said its request for a new overpass was sent to François Bonnardel, the Minister of Transport, and the Minister Delegate for Transport, Chantal Rouleau, following city council’s adoption of a resolution “aimed at ensuring a safe crossing, as provided for in the Ministère des Transports’ 2030 sustainable mobility policy and the 2018–2023 active transportation action plan.”

“This is not new,” Belvedere added. “We’ve been pushing it for a while.”

He said it’s too early to know if a separate multi-purpose overpass would be built over the highway or whether it would be incorporated into a single reconstructed overpass.

“Well, that’s what the studies are being done right now (are looking at),” Belvedere said. “I don’t think the existing overpass can be enlarged enough to do everything they want to do, so that’s why a study is being done.”

The mayor said the costs of building a new overpass would fall to the MTQ.

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Clip des travaux de la station, déniché sur YT et daté du 28 février (on y voit les images de la station F-P-C jusqu’à 1:56 du clip…) :sunglasses:

Je n’ai pas de contrôle sur le choix de trame sonore… :wink:

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Absolutely zero workers on site all day today. Is it “spring break” for the construction unions?

Je verrais bien ça comme une occasion de changer la configuration de l’échangeur Saint-Jean / A40 en une configuration en diamant, peut-être en ajoutant quelques autres compromis véhiculaires compte tenu du débit important. Ça contribuerait à libérer des terrains dans le secteur et possiblement à restructurer le tout.

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Isn’t it already a diamond? Or do you mean without the cloverleaf, more like a rural/regional interchange with left turns on the overpass to enter the on-ramps? The 205 at A30 is one that comes to mind, or any of a number of A440 interchanges. I’m not in favour of that at one of the busiest interchanges in the West Island. The lights for the off-ramps are already terrible. St-Jean at A20 used to be a diamond like that, and was converted to a modified cloverleaf design.

I like the idea of a diverging diamond. Feels more neat and pedestrian friendly than clovers

You overestimate the spatial awareness of West Island drivers. :joy:

Quand vous parlez d’échangeur en diamand, vous parlez de ceci ? Je pense que ce serait le premier au Québec.

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Les échangeurs en diamant conventionnels existent au Québec. L’image ci-haut est un diamant inversé, effectivement une nouveauté, ce qui serait techniquement plus sécuritaire et nécessiterait définitivement moins d’escape qu’un clover ou un half clover

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Non ça c’est un diverging diamond, qui implique seulement des virages à droite. Ces échangeurs-là ne sont pas très amenables aux déplacements piétons, pas plus que le design actuel. Un échangeur en diamant régulier ressemble à ça:

Ici on aurait besoin de quelque chose d’un peu plus lourd pour accomoder les débits plus grands associés à Saint-Jean, mais le fait reste que l’empreinte au sol et la capacité de traverser à pied est beaucoup plus grande.

On aurait peut-être aussi besoin de rajouter d’autres points de traverse ou d’accès automobile à la 40 ailleurs dans les environs.

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Déjà un tunnel pour l’avenue Stillview ainsi qu’une traversée piétonnière depuis la station Fairview seraient un plus pour l’accessibilité du secteur.

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